tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post1269989562722143126..comments2024-02-28T17:42:05.365-05:00Comments on Outside Clyde: Give The PETA What They WantChristopher C. NChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-50947497800607619182012-08-15T16:38:54.239-05:002012-08-15T16:38:54.239-05:00Jasmine darling, we know that's not your real ...Jasmine darling, we know that's not your real name. I don't have to do anything. I have made myself perfectly clear. That was your last comment as an anonymous poster. Obviously you lack the courage to face public scrutiny.<br /><br />Grant yourself a nice piece of sisal rope and make good use of it. Christopher C. NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-85788934018033048802012-08-15T11:54:48.719-05:002012-08-15T11:54:48.719-05:00So now you're changing the subject to complete...So now you're changing the subject to completely avoid the question? <br /><br />Where I come from has no bearing on the discussion, you're chasing shadows here because it's a distraction from a question you are clearly refusing to answer. How are we supposed to hold a discussion on ethics if you keep on dodging the point? The onus isn't on me, it's on <i>you</i>. You have to jasmineccnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-2718368728866449122012-08-14T22:11:52.861-05:002012-08-14T22:11:52.861-05:00Jasmine darling, if that is your real name, now th...Jasmine darling, if that is your real name, now that traffic has slowed enough and with regular repetition I have your IP address in Sydney, New South Wales. The determination and tone tell me you are a person with multiple personalities. I have a fair notion of who you are.<br /><br />When you have the courage of your convictions to present your real self and stop hiding in anonymity I will Christopher C. NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-69589241788260794932012-08-14T21:18:16.209-05:002012-08-14T21:18:16.209-05:00You're tip-toeing around the question by answe...You're tip-toeing around the question by answering with a question, giving no clearly defined answer. I have read the other blogs, but the bulk of the discussion is here, including all the relevant statements. None of those links answer my question. And no, saying "I don't care if they suffer" isn't an answer, because that doesn't explain how such an act is actually jasmineccnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-29641318386635252802012-08-14T20:27:40.922-05:002012-08-14T20:27:40.922-05:00Jasmine since you choose not to or can't leave...Jasmine since you choose not to or can't leave a link back to yourself perhaps you don't know how a blog functions. These links will bring you up to date.<br /><br /><a href="http://outsideclyde.blogspot.com/2012/08/fishing-for-outrage.html" rel="nofollow">Fishing For Outrage</a><br /><br /><a href="http://outsideclyde.blogspot.com/2012/08/seeing-reddit.html" rel="nofollow">Seeing Reddit<Christopher C. NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-43107183286459947432012-08-14T18:31:49.226-05:002012-08-14T18:31:49.226-05:00That you lost money in this is unfortunate, but co...That you lost money in this is unfortunate, but come on. The animal doesn't really know any better, does it deserve to suffer because of that?<br /><br />Make it quick - euthanise the animal. Is that too much to ask? This is the crux of the issue. I get your point about being numb, but really, how's that stopping you from doing a simple act prior to disposal? It's almost like you <i>jasmineccnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-84368598053565299302012-08-13T16:24:17.498-05:002012-08-13T16:24:17.498-05:00Jasmine darling I catch dozens of mice on glue tra...Jasmine darling I catch dozens of mice on glue traps every year. I have watched the still living ones more times than you can imagine. I know exactly what is going on.<br /><br />What you and Mr. Anonymous above simply won't accept is that I have been desensitized. I simply do not care about their struggles. They must be removed from where they are not wanted. That is my prime objective.<br /Christopher C. NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-47931731400408760932012-08-13T11:38:51.364-05:002012-08-13T11:38:51.364-05:00I have no desire to add killing mice to an already...<i>I have no desire to add killing mice to an already disgusting chore.</i><br /><br />You're killing them anyway, so why not do it quickly and painlessly as possible? Does the act of killing itself make you uneasy? Squeamish? I can't find a good reason to simply just throw 'em into the bin like that, still alive. That's not OK.<br /><br />Perhaps you'll change your mind if jasmineccnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-80802206119216293062012-08-13T04:36:20.235-05:002012-08-13T04:36:20.235-05:00He's throwing live mice still attached into th...He's throwing live mice still attached into the rubbish bin. That's going nothing to do with maintaining anything, because he could do the same job by just tapping them on the head *before* throwing them out. That's the issue. It's leaving something in the bin to suffer, if he'd have put them out of their misery then no one would be complaining.<br /><br />Someone who does Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-60737957372765367562012-08-12T15:13:10.892-05:002012-08-12T15:13:10.892-05:00I've been a taxidermist for years and I can sa...I've been a taxidermist for years and I can say, in any job where animals(deceased or soon to be) are involved, you tend to get spiteful comments from the holier than thou masses, it doesn't make you a bad person to maintain your house, if that means trapping then so be it. What amazes me is the fact that P.E.T.A. and A.L.F have sent countless death threats to me and my family, without Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-52963433860451017262012-08-01T22:44:33.079-05:002012-08-01T22:44:33.079-05:00A Mini Mouse Auschwitz. just for my friend in Aust...<a href="http://outsideclyde.blogspot.com/2012/08/fishing-for-outrage.html" rel="nofollow">A Mini Mouse Auschwitz.</a> just for my friend in Australia.Christopher C. NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-59231265187138590392012-07-31T19:30:36.922-05:002012-07-31T19:30:36.922-05:00Wow Christopher, you certainly stepped in a pile o...Wow Christopher, you certainly stepped in a pile of something warm and stinky. Major points to you for actually addressing it.Leshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18281256160705697856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-35537728463685381992012-07-31T07:10:11.928-05:002012-07-31T07:10:11.928-05:00No Praying Mantis/Goreboy/Dennis. I am aware by al...No Praying Mantis/Goreboy/Dennis. I am aware by allowing anonymous commentors you can just change your name and pretend to be someone else. That was just the novel length version of the same old, same old. It's cruel. It's torture. It's a living mammal/mouse blah, blah, blah. You deserve to be castigated for your horrible deeds. It's justified.<br /><br />I will give you style Christopher C. NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-4930145319855495002012-07-30T20:53:58.643-05:002012-07-30T20:53:58.643-05:00I’m sure just as many of you get tired of reading ...I’m sure just as many of you get tired of reading a different iteration of the same thought over and over and skip reading a lot of these comments.<br /><br />I get it. You think it is cruel and inhumane, rising to the level of torture for me to toss a live mouse stuck on a glue trap into the rubbish bin. - I kind of like that word bin. – I should kill them quick before I toss them in the trash.Christopher C. NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-7580527663774735452012-07-30T12:16:44.392-05:002012-07-30T12:16:44.392-05:00You, know, this is when I realize some organizatio...You, know, this is when I realize some organizations are out of control. Some of them need to come live in the mountains and get a dose of reality. We have an unlimited supply of mice/rats. They have caused damage in our house(relatively new) cars, equipment and my eggs. I feed them regularly, poison, that is.<br />Yes, I have shot them, and Chris, I am not as nice as you, I kill every Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-46062360618029218912012-07-30T10:03:53.564-05:002012-07-30T10:03:53.564-05:00Hang on a moment, you have misgivings about drowni...Hang on a moment, you have misgivings about drowning the animal (and look a little sympathetic there), but you have no problem letting the animal die painfully still attached to the device for several hours (maybe more)?<br /><br />That doesn't make any sense at all, especially after I read the original post. You're either lying about saying you feel nothing (perhaps to look edgy or toughlauranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-42486862797625347672012-07-30T09:40:39.163-05:002012-07-30T09:40:39.163-05:00A mouse being slowly tortured to death vs a person...A mouse being slowly tortured to death vs a person getting upset because people are calling out their cruelty and inhumanity. Gee, and you wonder why people are struggling to be good mannered to you!victor84noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-12610248089844612932012-07-30T07:48:40.491-05:002012-07-30T07:48:40.491-05:00It is nice that so many folks have such empathy fo...It is nice that so many folks have such empathy for vermin. One could hope that type of kindness would extend out to all your affairs. But only when forced do you seem capable of conversational good manners and it is an obvious struggle for many of you.Christopher C. NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-43024428024124384812012-07-30T07:14:38.016-05:002012-07-30T07:14:38.016-05:00I doubt many of you have caught as many mice as I ...I doubt many of you have caught as many mice as I do and watched what happens on a glue trap.<br /><br />When I need to put out traps I check them every morning. 50% of the mice die in the night before I get to them. I make sure the rest are good and stuck. They can't struggle and they sure as hell are not going to get away much less tear themselves to pieces. They are dead by afternoon. I Christopher C. NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15621322814577793080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-1031490926466065232012-07-30T02:36:03.605-05:002012-07-30T02:36:03.605-05:00Interesting post. I don't agree with it, thoug...Interesting post. I don't agree with it, though. Cruelty to animals isn't nice at all. Your attitude isn't nice. Putting a live mouse in your bin with its body attached onto a glue board, for it to slowly die? How's that acceptable? Here's an interesting link for you:<br /><br />http://www.wildcarebayarea.org/site/PageServer?pagename=TakeAction_GlueTraps<br /><br />Glue traps Charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-69196297933061961902012-07-30T02:17:24.837-05:002012-07-30T02:17:24.837-05:00Don't feel bad Wondering Woman, drowning is a ...Don't feel bad Wondering Woman, drowning is a considerably better death than throwing it into the garbage. Typically they'll struggle so hard they'll start pulling bits of themselves off, not to mention dehydration/starvation. Drowning is quicker and less painful.<br /><br />You did the right thing in those circumstances. Unfortunately I can't say the same for Christopher.Ruskienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-7474290660284227792012-07-30T01:59:02.954-05:002012-07-30T01:59:02.954-05:00"I did the drowning thing once and it was mor..."I did the drowning thing once and it was more than I could take."<br /><br />So you DO have empathy for a suffering mouse............ when faced with the suffering directly, that is.<br /><br />Well imagine a worse death stuck in a garbage bin, unable to eat, continually contorting yourself to the point of broken bones, etc. You know this yet how can you even do something that horrid??beeroclocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-80346690121749564122012-07-30T01:54:33.074-05:002012-07-30T01:54:33.074-05:00Wondering woman, put the trap with animal in a pla...Wondering woman, put the trap with animal in a plastic bag, get something heavy like a rock, and deliver a blow to the head. The animal will be dead instantly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-16981988179733330072012-07-30T01:51:24.507-05:002012-07-30T01:51:24.507-05:00Pomaika`i, it's quite obvious most people do N...Pomaika`i, it's quite obvious most people do NOT support his stance. Personally, I find it abhorrent he kills mice in this manner. It's needless cruelty to an animal, he could have just easily humanely killed the animal and there'd be no issue at all. The issue people are opposing is the method and the attitude. I would say that it really is in more detail, but I won't because bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2611983692965659884.post-71534695446961967672012-07-30T01:46:01.859-05:002012-07-30T01:46:01.859-05:00"The science does not support these people..."The science does not support these people's attitudes, to say nothing of the rudeness.<br />Go actually study how nature works, guys"<br /><br />- Science tells me that mice can feel pain. <br /><br />- Science tells me that breaking one's limbs and ripping your face off is extremely painful. <br /><br />- Science tells me that mice aren't inanimate like a rock.<br /><br />John Perusinoreply@blogger.com